Our VERIFY researchers have checked what President Trump and Joe Biden said during the second and final presidential debate.
President Donald Trump and Democratic candidate Joe Biden faced each other on Thursday evening in Nashville, Tennessee, for the second and final presidential debate.
Our VERIFY researchers have worked to verify the claims and testimony of both nominees in real time:
CLAIM: Biden said, “The expectation is that we will have another 200,000 Americans dead by the end of the year.”
This is based on outdated estimates by the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics. early September his projection was 410,451 U.S. coronavirus deaths through January 1, 2021. As of the night of the debate October 22, 2020, its estimate is 316,935 U.S. coronavirus deaths through January 1, 2021.
There were 222,977 U.S. coronavirus deaths on the night of the debate. to Johns Hopkins UniversitySo by the current estimate, there would be another 94,000 deaths by early 2021, not 200,000.
Sources: Institute for Health Metrics; Johns Hopkins University
Claim: Trump said, “If you see that [COVID-19] The death rate has decreased by 85%. “
The death rate indicates the percentage of patients who die of an illness after diagnosis. Johns Hopkins data estimates that the currently observed death rate in the United States is 2.7%.
When VERIFY first reported the COVID-19 death rate in January, the death rate was around 2%. That is actually an increase.
The 85% figure mentioned by the president can be found by comparing the number of weekly deaths during the peak in April to the last recorded week.
In the week of April 18, 17,077 people died, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. 2,540 people died in the week of October 10th. That is a decrease of about 85%.
Sources: CDC; Johns Hopkins; CHECK JANUARY
Claim: Trump said, “99.9% of young people recover. 99% of people recover.”
Context is missing in the first half of this quote. The second half is wrong.
The John Hopkins COVID-19 tracker shows the US at 222,977 deaths and 8.4 million cases in total. That’s a mortality rate of almost 2.7%. The global death rate is roughly the same. That calculation would mean that just over 97% of people who tested positive for the virus would recover.
However, experts say this number is not accurate as it is not responsible for people who died from the virus when the tests were not widely available. It is unclear what age groups Trump was referring to when referring to “young people”. However, among people under the age of 30 in the United States, the CDC reports 829 deaths in that age group and about 1.5 million cases. That gives a mortality rate of 0.05% for the age group and a survival rate of 99.9%.
This calculation also doesn’t take into account deaths before tests were available. Experts say death rates don’t capture all of the harm caused by COVID-19, including lengthy hospital stays and rehabilitation.
Sources: Demographics of the CDC COVID-19 tracker via the wayback machine; Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 tracker
CLAIM: Biden called the Black Community “Super Predators” in reference to his 1994 Crime Bill.
“He’s been in government for 47 years, he never did anything except in 1994 when he caused such damage to the black community,” Trump said during the debate on Thursday. “And they were called and he called them ‘super-predators’ and he said that, he said it ‘super-predators’. And they never lived that. 1994, your Crime Bill, the ‘super-predators’.”
Trump made this false claim during the President’s first meeting, but it wasn’t Biden who was talking about “super-predators” it was Hillary Clinton. She used the term in a 1996 speech at Keene State College, New Hampshire in support of the Crime Act signed in 1994 by her husband, President Bill Clinton. This speech appeared during the 2016 campaign. Trump mentioned it in a tweet in August of that year and Hillary Clinton made a statement to the Washington Post in February apologizing for its use.
While Biden has been criticized for his role in passing the 1994 Crime Act and cautioned against “predators” in a speech in support of that legislation, he did not refer to African Americans as “super-predators.”
Claim: Trump said: “We have the best CO2 emissions in 35 years.”
Trump is a decade away.
American carbon emissions in 2016 were at their lowest level in 25 years, according to the World Bank. No data were listed for 2017-2019.
According to the Environmental Protection Agency, US greenhouse gas emissions in 2017 were the lowest in 25 years. Greenhouse gas emissions increased the following year in 2018.
The EPA has tracked the greenhouse gas emissions inventory in the United States and has been falling from 1990 to 2018. In 2017, greenhouse gas emissions fell to their lowest level since 1992.
Greenhouse gas emissions in the United States hit this low point in 2017 after starting to decline in 2006. This year marked only the third time American greenhouse gas emissions declined year-on-year since 1990, starting a period where emissions declined eight out of 12 years.
The lowest year-to-year decrease in emissions was in 2009 when they decreased by 6.3%. With the exception of this year, greenhouse gas emissions have never changed by more than 3.5%. Greenhouse gas emissions decreased by 0.5% in 2017, after falling by 2.3% in 2016 and 2.2% in 2015. However, in 2018 they increased by 2.9%. The EPA has not yet released greenhouse gas emissions data for 2019.
Claim: Biden said Trump “doesn’t give state subsidies for solar and wind. Why are we giving them to the oil industry?”
Currently, tax credits are available to both the wind and solar industries – such as the production tax credit and the investment tax credit for wind. It offers tax credits per kilowatt hour for “supply-scale wind”. It was actually expanded under the Trump administration last December. However, some options, like a residential home tax credit for installing solar panels, have declined under the Trump administration.
The fossil fuel industry also receives subsidies, mostly in the form of tax credits.
CLAIM: When Trump was talking about immigration policy and so-called cages in which unaccompanied children would cross the border, he said, “And they said look at these cages, President Trump built them. And then it was found that they were built in 2014. That was [Biden]. “
In a 2019 interview with the Center for Immigration Studies Regarding the border crisis, former Director of Immigration and Customs Control, Thomas Homan, said: “I was in this facility where they talk about cages. This facility was set up under President Obama under Secretary Jeh Johnson. I was there because I was there when it was built, ”the transcript reads. He went on to say the facility was built and financed in fiscal 2015.
An article from The Associated Press confirms the planned opening date of the facility in mid-July 2014 with plans for “four fenced sleeves in a corrugated iron store”, in which around 1,000 children could be accommodated.
ONE CNN The 2014 message shows the opening of the then new facility in McAllen, Texas. The video shows the chain-bound holding cells, which are often called cages.
Sources: Center for Immigration Studies; AP reporting
CLAIM: Biden said no one lost their private insurance under the Affordable Care Act unless they wanted to go to something else.
According to Health Affairs, a peer-reviewed health policy and affairs journal, some non-group health insurance plans were canceled in 2013 because they did not meet the standards of the Affordable Care Act. The magazine states that many of these people were eligible for reporting assistance.
“Although our sample size is small (N = 123) of people with non-group health insurance who report their plan was canceled due to ACA compliance, we estimate that more than half of this population is likely to be eligible for insurance through marketplace subsidies, “they said.
They found that some of these people could potentially pay significantly more if they signed up for a “new option for a contingency plan”.
Claim: Biden said, “If we just wear these masks, we could save 100,000 lives.”
This is wrong, but it needs context.
This claim is based on outdated estimates by the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics. In September, appreciated the organization that a near universal use of masks would reduce the number of projected COVID-19 deaths in the US by 122,000 by January 1.
On October 22nd, the night of the debate, IHME predicted that the number of deaths in the U.S. would be reduced by 63,000 by February 1, 2021 using a universal mask.
Source: Institute of Health Metrics
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